"Can you find this fight for me?" Is a common question I get asked. Chances are Ive already told you I didnt have it, and you have asked several sources before me, its a hard to get fight. I always will take a shot at tracking down a fight if its possible.
Some fights for whatever reason seem to elude being preservered or archived. Lots of reason may apply Here is my personal opinion/ criteria if a fight can be located. A few obvious questions will be presented.
1) Was it televiesed?
A) IF YES WHAT ERA? I.E. 60's, 70's ect
- LOCALLY? NATIONALLY? REGIONALLY,? WORLD WIDE?
- Who broadcast the fight originally? ABC, CBS, NBC ect
- This all affect the possibiltiy by reducing or increasing the odds of finding a fight once thought unfindable.
B) if not televised were cameras filming..often called an off tv fight or non televised
sometimes fights that are not aired are still filmed and put away somewhere, while not conisered rare, that simply are not common but can be found.
C) If neither A or B , only thing left is a hand held camera , personal video camera shot from a far or ringside..at one ----time this were considered rare gems...and still are but only for so long, with the internet and all its functions, a rare fight wont be rare once 50,000 people a day can see it or part of it....but quality ususally suffers on these type of sharing methods.
2) Quality of video?
some fights are considered RARE and should be if they have a mint version and most everyone else has a bad version,,,if the fight is old from the 80s, its not excpected to be perfect, but doesnt have to be unwatchable...but a very nice rare treat to get a well preserved MINT copy of an old fight.
3) Complete fights vs Complete Broadcasts
ALOT MORE INFO AND FIGHTS TO BE ADDED SOON!
LOOKING FOR
Yusaf Mack W12 Otis Griffin- USBA super middleweight title 2011
Artur Grigorian W12 Marty Jakubowski
Artur Grigorian W12 Dave Armstrong
Artur Grigorian W12 Oscar Garcia Cano
Artur Grigorian KO10 Wilson Galli
Artur Grigorian W Sandro Casamonica
Artur Grigorian W12 Antonio Pitalua
Artur Grigorian W12 Matt Zegan
Ray Mercer W10 Darroll Wilson 2005
Ray Mercer TKO3 Steve Pannell 2004
Ray Mercer TKO3 Shawn Robinson 2003
Ray Mercer KO1 Luis Walford 1989
Cliff Couser vs. Dale Crowe
Frans Botha vs Kenny Jackson
Lance Whitaker, KO5 Cliff Couse
Noel Arambulet W12 Jose Garcia Bernal- WBA World minimumweight title 2000
Noel Arambulet L12 Joma Gamboa I- WBA World minimumweight title 1999
Noel Arambulet L12 Brahim Asloum WBA Flyweight Title Eliminator
Noel Arambulet L12 Roberto Vasquez- WBA World light flyweight title 2006
Carlos Murillo TKO10 Jose Garcia Bernal- WBA World light flyweight title (1996)
Hi-Yong Choi TKO10 Yuichi Hosono- WBA Minimumweight Title (1992)
Hi-Yong Choi W12 Bong-Jun Kim II- WBA Minimumweight Title (1991
Bong-Jun Kim L12 Hi-Yong Choi I- WBA Minimumweight Title (1991
Bong-Jun Kim L12 Hi-Yong Choi II- WBA Minimumweight Title (1991
Raul Garcia W12 Florante Condes- IBF minimumweight title
Raul Garcia W12 Sammy Gutierrez- IBF minimumweight title
Joma Gamboa W12 Atsushi Sai- interim WBA World minimumweight title 2000
Magne Havnaa W Daniel Eduardo Neto 1990-12-08
Magne Havnaa W Tyrone Booze 1991-02-15
Kamel Bou-Ali NC2 Pedro Florindo Villegas- WBO Super Featherweight Title (1990)
Tom Johnson KO7 Claudio Victor Martinet- IBF featherweight title (1996)
Tom Johnson W12 Jose Badillo- IBF featherweight title (1995)
Kamel Bou-Ali TKO3 Joey Jacobs- WBO Super Featherweight Title (1991)
Greg Haugen TD11 Miguel Santana- IBF Lightweight (1988)
Dingaan Thobela W12 Antonio Rivera- WBO lightweight title (1991)
Takefumi Sakata D12 Denkaosan Kaovichit I- WBA World flyweight title
Takefumi Sakata W12 Shingo Yamaguchi- WBA World flyweight title
Marcos Villasana KO8 Javier Marquez - WBC featherweight title (1990)
Victor Rabanales L12 Sirimongkol Singmanasak- WBC bantamweight title (1992)
Roberto Vasquez W12 Noel Arambulet- WBA flyweight title (2006)
Tom Johnson W12 Benny Amparo- IBF featherweight title (1994)
Noel Arambulet W12 Keitaro Hoshino- WBA World minimumweight title (2002)
Noel Arambulet W12 Keitaro Hoshino II- WBA World minimumweight title (2002)
In-Joo Cho L12 Masamori Tokuyama I- WBC super flyweight title (2000)
In-Joo Cho W12 Julio Cesar Avila- WBC super flyweight title (2000)
Cristian Mijares vs Luis Maldonado WBC super flyweight title eliminator
Jeffrey Mathebula W12 Oscar Chauke- IBF super bantamweight eliminator (2011)
Jeffrey Mathebula L12 Takalani Ndlovu- IBF super bantamweight title eliminator (2010)
Celestino Caballero W12 Jeffrey Mathebula- IBF WBA Super super bantamweight title (2009)
Celestino Caballero TKO8 Mauricio Pastrana- WBA Super super bantamweight title (2007)
Juan Manuel Marquez W12 Alfred Kotey 1997
Luis Concepcion TKO12 Omar Salado- WBA World flyweight title (2009)
Edgar Sosa W12 Issac Bustos NABF minimumweight title 2003
Edgar Sosa W12 Francisco Rosas WBC FECARBOX light flyweight title 2004
Masamori Tokuyama W12 Katsushige Kawashima I -WBC Super Flyweight (2003)
Masamori Tokuyama W12 Jose Navarro-WBC Super Flyweight (2006)
Masamori Tokuyama W12 In-Joo Cho I -WBC Super Flyweight (2000)
Johnny Tapia vs Mauricio Pastrana (2011)
Yutaka Niida W12 Ronald Barrera- WBA World minimumweight title 2006
Zolani Petelo W12 Juanito Rubillar IBF minimumweight title (1999)
Zolani Petelo KO1 Eric Jamili IBF minimumweight title (1999)
Brian Viloria KO11 Gilberto Keb Baas- NABF Flyweight Title (2004)
TRADE TALK
(AND other Helpful Information for collecting fights as a HOBBY)
In my opinion there are 4 categories which boxing matches can be grouped
1) ULTRA RARE
Probably doesnt excist nor have I even heard of anyone having them and dont much count on anyone saying they have them. But they are fights that happened and you never know who may have it.
EXAMPLES
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Kid Gavilan 1,2 (1948, 1949)
Trevor Berbick W12 Mitch Blood Green (1985)
Mike Tyson KO3 Larry Sims (1985)
2) RARE
Fights that simply arent common, they arent sold in the junk career sets you see floating around.
Could consist of current year fights or very old fights that simply werent broadcast in very many places but are known to available somewhere.
EXAMPLES
Satoshi Shingaki TKO8 Elmer Magallano- IBF Bantamweight Title (1984)
In-Joo Cho W12 Gerry Penalosa II- WBC Super Flyweight Title (2000)
Brian Viloria W12 Julio Cesar Miranda- WBO flyweight title (2011)
3) LOOKING TO TRADE FOR GENERAL LIST
This category is basically fights I dont have that would interest me to trade or even buy because I dont have them, only because I just cant go out and buy and trade 24/7, not because I cant find them anywhere, I know they are out there.. I try to keep a list of what I would like to eventually get
4) COMMON FIGHTS
Consist of weekly shows that are current, all current popular fighters, pretty nuch anything that is aired more than once and nation or world wide. Basically anything new that has been aired , shoulod I have missed it, or simply dont have time to record everything, these are items I can from anyone at anytime, so they arent really worth alot to me as in trading for something vintage. I would trade something similar that is in same category.
Collecting fights is a Hobby, much like collecting comics or baseball cards. I Like to trade because its an oppurtunity to get fights that I dont have, fights I missed, or ones I had at one time but lost or cant find..Its also good to build up trusting good solid traders you can count on. Also both traders toget good fights and not have to buy all the time. Everyone that has a collection has bought or traded value for them.
"Pro Traders" look for Old/ Rare/ Vintage stuff all the time .
"General Traders" are in to what they personally like
"Newbie Traders" usually have collected every other sport, tv shows ect and boxing for them is another item simply because its out there and they usually have zero knowledge of the sport and think all trades are equal if you send 2 dvds and get 2 dvds back, regardless of whats on them .
I trade as often as my free time will permit me to do. This is a hobby and do this in my off time when I'm not working. I also have collected and been a fan for 25 plus years. Which means I cant trade with everyone, Its got to be something that is worth time and what is being picked from my list.
You cant go into the local baseball card shop and say you want to trade your 2011 favorite Atlanta Brave player for a 1952 Micky Mantle card. Which is what some people think is ok with boxing fights collecting.
A fight shown on a premium channel that airs around the world, and is reaired up to 10 times after. With all the tivos,dvd, vcrs, file sharing, everyone that loves boxing will have these, so dont think a 2 hour dvd of 2 Pacman vs Mosley and Margarito is gonna from last year is gonna be same value for sugar ray robinson fights that have not been replayed on the classic networks or fights from the 1980s that are in great shape. that most people dont have. Its not the dvd, its the content thats on it, Ive paid up to 100.00 for 2 fights and if there was a fight I really wanted, and have been looking forever ive trade say 5-10 fights for that 1. It was worth it to me, might not be for someone else. All traders are usally good people and as long as everyone is on the same page with what each other is wanting, shouldnt be any problems.
